National vs. International

A lot of new tech could be rolled out internationally.

But we see a lot of movement to national/local markets.

How do we balance the two interests? Join The Our Shawn McBride ⭐️ 🌟💥 (aka R. Shawn McBride)or the Future Done Right(TM) Show as we explore what we are seeing and what we need for the future. International Future Technology Expert Samson Williams joins us.

Here is the YouTube video:  https://youtu.be/h5f61oa1hgY

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Below is a machine transcript of the interview —

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Hey everyone it’s Dr. Sean, welcome to another edition of the future done right show where we look at where we are now. We look at what the future of business is and we look at the moves that we as business leaders can be making now.

 

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Samson. Welcome sir. Thank you for joining me, man.

 

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Sorry about that. I was I got confused all the time.

 

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All good. All good. I see you’re you’re halfway around the world because it’s it’s it’s dark. So

 

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Yeah. You see, it is night here in Dubai.

 

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Oh, fantastic. Yes. Beautiful lights out there and everything else.

 

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So cool. I WAS JUST JUST I WAS JUST STARTING TO recording here and telling folks that we’re going to be talking about the national and international tension that we’re starting to see and I think we had

 

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We had an interesting test case pop up over the weekend. I don’t know if you saw the Huawei arresting Canada.

 

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But the

 

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About that.

 

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Yes, I know. I was just digging into a little bit myself. So I think that kind of highlights to point it today. We’ll talk about that and some other stuff here in a minute.

 

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Samson is an international advisor on new technology, he’s he’s up to date with the blockchain cryptocurrency all the things that are coming out there and he’s looking at me. It’s a lot of global consulting, so he’s the perfect guy to join us today.

 

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To talk about it. We’re going to kind of talk about what we’re seeing now where the future is headed

 

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where it’s going. We love your comments are dropping wherever you’re watching it, whether it’s our Sean McBride Samsung William the LinkedIn, whatever the case might be. Drop your comments will be reading them.

 

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We do pick guests out of the comments if you have a great insightful comment we might invite you on there quick reminder before we get into the depth of it. We don’t do legal advice or investment advice on the show. Everything here is just for your education so Samson.

 

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That’s right.

 

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You. Bye.

 

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You’re welcome. We’re happy to be on today.

 

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It was fun last time, you’re on here.

 

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You know this. This is very interesting because the Tech has been very global for a while now. Right. People roll out software and

 

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You know everybody’s using the same software throughout the globe, for the most part.

 

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But now we’re starting to see a lot of regulatory friction. We’re starting to see some other stuff happening we’re starting to see a lot of regionalisation localization to the regulation and as you and I were mentioning during the intro

 

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You know, now the US had the Canadians arrest the Chinese citizen.

 

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To answer for some potential security issues in the US. So I think that’s just the

 

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Start of kind of what we might see I’m actually I’ve been a little surprised we haven’t seen more of that.

 

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These airport pickups or whatever.

 

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Yeah, so most we have trade treaties.

 

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And a

 

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With a variety of countries. So even if you don’t have American investors at some point or another, due to a demo KYC Uncle Sam wants to wants to reach out and touch you. So I was looking for my passport.

 

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Yes, because in the back, you can’t really see this but bullet point D and it talks about taxes. Okay, maybe. Yeah, you’re right.

 

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I mean look to that page. Yep.

 

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Yeah, so it’s a big literally it’s the very last book. This is my

 

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Ignore this part. This is just says, I got shots, okay I travel around a bit, but in the very last page at your passport. Yeah, good point. He

 

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Says all US citizens working and residing abroad are required to follow report on their worldwide income and still IRS Publication 54 tasks guide for US citizens and resident aliens abroad available@irs.gov yes and so many people don’t appreciate, particularly when they’re Americans.

 

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Here in Dubai and Mina you’re typically exempt the first hundred thousand dollars from paying taxes on right, it might be like $110,000 so might be odd number. Yeah, but I’m

 

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Not and not not tax advice. Definitely not legal advice. And sure, definitely not tax advice but consult with your individual tax advisor.

 

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Until because the way business is structured and then globally. At some point, Uncle Sam wants his cut, hence why we have so much tension in the markets worldwide.

 

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Well, you asked definitely once global and Dave Dave taxed worldwide. We’ve been one of the few countries that have tax robot. At one point, I believe we were the only country now, China has jumped in the game, and they said that they want.

 

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global income accounted for, for all their citizens. Most countries tax their residents. Right. So if you’re living in the country. You’re paying taxes, not necessarily. If you’re a citizen of that country, you might be a citizen of France and living in the US.

 

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And my understanding is then you wouldn’t pay French taxes you would pay us taxes because you’re

 

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Living in the US, but the US goes the other way and says, I don’t care where you live. You’re gonna pay us taxes.

 

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But they also do this with a lot of their, you know, Foreign Corrupt Practices X, a lot of regulatory stuff says we don’t care where you are. If you’re touching the US economy, you know, guess what you can’t do it.

 

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And so, the US has been very proactive in this China now.

 

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That their latest tax reform is taxing the global income of Chinese citizens. So if you’re a Chinese person and you live anywhere in the world you potentially have to pay Chinese tax on that income.

 

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And I can only expect with the belt, the Belt and Road initiative that we see coming that can only expand right i mean that’s a

 

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That’s an attempt for China to have more and more global presence and they’re going to say, okay, we know now that Chinese people are going to be spreading throughout the globe, and we’re going to collect all our taxes on that fun stuff.

 

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Absolutely. So part of it is when we look at a international tax schemes and just foreign policy in general.

 

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The US doesn’t want to the US is trying to regain its foreign policy position.

 

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We spent

 

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We spent the last two decades, particularly in the Middle East. In fact, in not Pakistan, but Afghanistan.

 

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You know, we’re great at bombing people back into the Stone Age.

 

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Yep, but it

 

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Doesn’t actually give you the ROI that you like, yeah, I call it pouring water on country expecting flowers grow and present work quite

 

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Well as China they spent the last two decades, and you could call it making a strategic investments are just increasing their soft power. You mentioned the belts in the road and for the listeners out there.

 

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Is kicked off in 2014 the belt Road initiative.

 

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And I China, what time manage something called the Silk Road, which you probably heard of. Yeah, they manage that for about 2000 years they decided they should get back to it. So right now in 2018 it encompasses 70 plus countries.

 

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We argue over. Is it 4 trillion or $8 trillion they’ve invested probably tell everyone. There’s a lot of billions in 1 trillion

 

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You know, China has really moved forward because at the end of the day, it’s how do you become a global head your mind. And so the US, we reinforce our foreign policy through our military and China says, Hey, Will. Will you can be our debtor will be your creditor

 

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Yeah.

 

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And that’s and that’s really exciting.

 

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Yeah and you know for and they call the say a couple different things. I think the latest name is the belt Road initiative d-ri

 

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It’s also been called One Belt, One Road Belt, One Road initiative got a bunch of different names floating around there. So you might see different names for the same thing.

 

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But now it’s even reached into South America. So I’ve looked you look at the Globe. It’s almost like they’ve built a you around the US. I mean, the North America is kind of isolated and the rest of the world, potentially is tied into this

 

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This initiative because it includes Europe, Africa. Now, South America and North America seems to be only part of the globe. It’s not in it.

 

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Yeah yeah I’m distracted, a little bit by your jacket because I can’t determine of these are terminus, whereas Rex and like a five.

 

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Day on your first misty jacket. You see the little snowflakes there you got the gifts. I think these are gifts you got Christmas trees here and hearts as a Christmas themed jacket but a little fun and playful, because it’s kind of got the

 

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Gaming side of it. So we’re in the holiday season. Some I do business differently suits of now expanded into Christmas attire.

 

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Cool. No, but so China’s as China gains its international foothold. It’s really because the US after world war two with the Marshall Plan.

 

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Yeah, we looked a lot of money to Europe and that helps subsidize

 

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Rather, they helped create wealth back here at home. My nickname in factory jobs.

 

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Yep, early 90s when we sold off the bill the rust belt to the rest of the world and offshore to everything that stunted. Our, our manufacturing and our global growth and so

 

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Now we have

 

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Because of that policy, we have to compete and Americans are very bad competing globally, we’ve been so accustomed to dominating we forgot that we need to cover the basics.

 

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Yeah, you know, that is very interesting. That’s one thing I’ve

 

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mentioned several times on the show is we don’t talk in terms of competition, right. You don’t hear the American saying competition. You certainly hear the French saying, and I’ve heard the German saying, and of course the Chinese are saying Vladimir Putin for Russia saying it.

 

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I don’t hear much in the US in terms of compete, compete, you know, we got to win this battle, but other people in the world are viewing this as a battle to the future economy, who’s going to get dominance. Who’s going to take control.

 

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So it’s really a different mindset of how the countries are approaching us

 

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Yeah, so we, the American Dream is alive and well in China and India.

 

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Really in Africa to

 

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I was in Mauritius in August. So it’s a little island next to Madagascar at the bottom of Africa.

 

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And so they’re positioning themselves to be the Hong Kong of Africa. The Singapore of Africa, we’re attracting wealth from around the globe.

 

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And so one of the things I’ve been we’ve been talking about is, when’s the next recession. What goes up must come down market correction.

 

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And so I was, I got an alert from the Dow that the dad dropped 800 points this morning. Yeah, I’m opening bill or ah, because of the heel a president got arrested in Canada.

 

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Yeah. And so you see how a political act in Canada who we just stopped beefing with like last week, or whatever the new acronym for NAFTA is around eight. So we’re gonna we’re gonna go through a period of

 

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You know, we have to figure out what we want to do on a global scale, you know, so hopefully we have some smart people.

 

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Who can tamper are sick or saber rattling with good policy needs some more walks right

 

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Well, I thought was very interesting to I mean us have the Canadians intercept the Chinese. So, you know, I don’t know what political went on behind the scenes there to get Canada to jump in the middle of this US, China dispute, but that’s that’s some very interesting politics right there.

 

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It. Well, you know, some days. We don’t like dress. I like Justin Trudeau. I think he’s great. I like Canada in general. Go, go, maple leaves.

 

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Yeah.

 

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But we’re again politics makes strange bedfellows in global politics in DC gets a little bit weirder and weirder every day.

 

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Yeah, and I know

 

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settles out

 

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Yeah, I mean, the US government’s had it in for a while way for a long time. I’ve known a handful of people in while ways North American operations you know they’re they’re based out of Dallas. So I met something

 

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Passing from the North American operations. They’ve always been frustrated because every time they tried to

 

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Expand in America, they get blocked by one government authority or another and then now you can see, you know, years later, we’re now now arrested somebody from Huawei so they must know something about this technology that we don’t know.

 

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Well, I think the real threat with all cell phone technology, in particular as 5G, I’m just gonna make in the IoT Internet of Things devices.

 

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I believe in September. I forget the name of the company, but it was a Chinese based company they had insert. They did a

 

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A Transportation, logistics. Logistics hack they installed a chip the size of this pin top

 

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One some servers that allegedly went to Apple and Amazon, of course, Apple and Amazon city and not getting a

 

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Right compromised service, but it was on the cover of Forbes in October. You guys can look that up. Back jack. Nice.

 

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Yeah. So whenever you do a supply chain act. That’s what I’m looking for.

 

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You have to start at the factory. So when you shut down its manufacturing of silicon disk of chips and shift that all overseas for cheaper labor. We also fundamentally compromise the quality and the security of our of this stuff.

 

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Yep.

 

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And so as a result, yeah. The Chinese government does what the Chinese government do and so I don’t fault them for that because that’s their on their agenda.

 

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Yeah. Well, no. I mean, everybody’s. I mean, you know,

 

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It’s not talked about much in the mainstream media, but there’s a lot of global espionage going on every country is vying to get more information on what the others doing everybody’s watching every over everybody. I mean, that’s just the reality of it.

 

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And so the Chinese very tightly tied into their economy and tied into their

 

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You know companies, if you, you know, I did a lot of work with China for a period of time helped a lot of Chinese companies raise money. And if you look at the leaders. They’re typically former military officials government back you know

 

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Very few private companies are led by somebody who brought their way up completely from the private sector in China, they’ve always got some kind of government tie in

 

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So, you know, there’s a back and forth there. So it’s not surprising that potentially you could be embedding stuff in chips and getting information and I can imagine it’s probably going the other direction to

 

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The USA.

 

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So one of the things I like to remind people that the American Dream is alive and well in China, primarily because

 

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When we shifted manufacturing and we outsource labor and supplies and resources for a lot of things to China. Okay, any services made in China. Yeah.

 

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We’re bundling the American dream in China. And so that’s why the US, you are buying a cheap goods has helped over 200 million Chinese come out of poverty.

 

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Yeah and now we’re being our benefits of you have almost two thirds of the population of the US who’ve been lifted out of poverty.

 

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Right. And they’re competing for the same raw resources when it comes to resources that go into this phone. Oh, right. So you back to this. I need to know

 

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That in a moment.

 

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Where the chickens are coming home to roost here in the States. And so we’re gonna have to figure out what to do because when we say

 

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When you’re watching no part of that is that what is the US as technology position because it’s not just about sales and economics, it’s

 

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What infrastructure what technologies are we investing in today to make to help ensure that we maintain our head demonic position going into the next century.

 

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Yeah, you know, and I reviewed the other day global steel production and I was looking at some of the largest steel producers, none of the largest 10 top 10 steel producers are in the US. So

 

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You know, a future war is probably going to be, you know, a lot of it’s going to be information cyber security, etc. But you got to imagine you’re still going to need steel. If there’s ever another

 

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War need for national defense and the US steel production levels are are very low relative to the rest of the world right now.

 

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Um, well in you’ll learn that fair trade is it’s a concept somebody ran a piece of paper.

 

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Right, well yeah, everybody’s got to decide what their definition of fair is right and that’s always, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s, yeah. I mean, it’s working backwards to an answer. Right. I mean, it’s like, is it, you know, because everybody’s got tax incentives. Everybody’s got, you know,

 

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Things to help companies in one industry or another. So every country has been doing that.

 

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You know who defines what’s fair as far as that goes. And that incentivizes some industries dis incentivizes other industries and

 

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Quite honestly, the US hasn’t one that wanted to dirty industries for a while, right, nobody’s been jumping at oh let’s get a steel manufacturer, let’s let’s mine. I mean, nobody wants to do that stuff.

 

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And now we’re seeing some of the downstream effects of that I think

 

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Yeah. Well, we do have an opportunity to potentially lead the way in some of the getting out of the dirty things and going into the clean things

 

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Right.

 

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But right now we have a telephone solar panels which is stifling the alternative energy. Earlier this week I was here in Dubai for the alternative Alternative Investment Management summit.

 

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Okay, so part of it is a discussion of Saudi Arabia as an emerging market, which is hilarious.

 

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But an emerging market for oil which I was like this is so funny. I’m so that because with Saudi Arabia is also the their fifth which is their public investment fun. I’m sorry. Are we gave

 

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Some $45 billion and they turned around invested a chunk of that. And I believe they purchase 15% of Tesla. Okay. And so oil company through a fund water bought into an electric car company.

 

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Right.

 

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Here inside here in mean in Saudi Arabia. I’ll be in rehab tomorrow.

 

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They started off with this much oil.

 

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Yeah.

 

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They know that this material you got it before they get to this much oil.

 

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Right, so you’ll see them as a nation state in the other GCC countries.

 

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Making heavy investments into alternative

 

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Wenzel etc. Because they know they’re running out of natural resources and in this instance, the US, they could lead in this in this particular category by saying, hey, we’re going to become the number one manufacturer of solar panels.

 

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Right. But that requires political will.

 

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Yeah, there’s, there’s a political and a private sector side to it right you got to incentivize the private sector, you gotta have some direction. What’s interesting is the US as much as we do this, we have we’ve talked about not having central planning, but

 

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You know you’re competing against countries like China who are now running like you say a 70 country initiative.

 

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They’ve got a lot of central planning and there are a lot of coordination among their economy. And because of that, you can see some of the results in the power that they’re that they’ve amassed

 

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Don’t call us interplay college teaching planning.

 

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Strategic Planning. Okay.

 

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Because we get everywhere we go. So as I was in Cambodia, what a company we’re buying a port. I’m the Chinese are buying a port, because that’s what john does right don’t shut

 

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It shut your part of the world. They say you live in a shithole country. Okay, great. We have a checkbook Naima infrastructure project with the beat in it or write you a check.

 

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So this is where because the US and military spending in China. Justin investments we spend about the same amount of money. Right. The difference is China gets a little bit money back.

 

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Or interest. Yeah.

 

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The US you just Bob stuff.

 

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So China soft powers through the roof. Anywhere you are even here in Dubai, particularly here in Dubai. If you look at you see the buildings, they’re all the big cranes. Yeah, they’re all nice.

 

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All the heavy equipment came in from China. And I’m like, we should have made those cranes because uh yeah it’s just a good energy construction is just a good industry.

 

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It’s solid us and we need we need more and more buildings, right, we’ve talked about, you know, vertical cities and vertical farming and all these things are talked about all that is underpinned by

 

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Construction right, you’re going to have to have steel, you’re going to have to have structures in order to house, you know, all the future tech so

 

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I agree. So, yeah. So Sean. Sean for 2020 president, you’re going to run for election. How are you going to correct these problems, man. What is your solutions.

 

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Oh, I mean, I think, well,

 

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The regulatory side. I’m very frustrated with. So I think, you know, we need to speak with one voice, as a country, I’m not. I’m, you know, and I’m a little disappointed that we haven’t

 

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Gotten together and said look, what is our policy on a blockchain. What is our policy on crypto. What are we doing as a country that needs to be next, rather than saying

 

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We’ve got five six regulators comply with them all. You know, I’d love to see one centralized

 

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You know regulator who’s taking care of some of these future tech things that everybody knows who to answer to. There’s one set of rules that you start playing the game.

 

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That would be a start of it. And I think, you know, the Chinese the Chinese PRI is not a bad way to go. I mean, it’s a great way to

 

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Shore up your global relationships to increase commerce to get deeper into trade cycles. We’ve had a lot of benefits from trade, no doubt. I mean,

 

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The US dollars and European dollars have have built China over you know the last several decades. Right. I mean, that’s where it came from. That is a country that has built themselves on trade.

 

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We forget that they were the global leaders to 300 years ago China was the leaders, then the Europeans got heavy into trade, they became the leaders and then America kind of built off that tradition. And now, China has taken it back by going back to trade. So you can see the path.

 

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Of

 

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history is repeating itself.

 

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I think it is. I mean, we’re going through cycles. Now in China, who was the leader to 250 years ago. They’re, they’re pushing to take leadership of the global economy.

 

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And they’ve got a billion people to do it, you know.

 

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And so there’s actually there are more if you so when I my day job. I’m supposed to run a bank think so. And so there are

 

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There are more

 

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Think tanks in the top 10% of China than we have in the entire US yeah and so they spend a lot of time thinking not based quarterly. You’re not really concerned with what’s happening this quarter. They’re thinking

 

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In 10 2050 year Tron just as we’re out how can we best coordinate our national policy so that we can influence our global policy because, to your point about Chinese collecting taxes on their citizens.

 

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They’re like, hey, the top 1% of China is approximately 1.2 billion Chinese. Yeah, so they’re like 1.2 there’s 12 million millionaires. So they till 1% of those was that I enjoy it 60,000 people go out what your millions of dollars set of businesses across the world. So you got 60,000 agents.

 

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Of Jane. It is this right

 

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Exactly. Yeah. And it builds that inner connection which you know they’re doing such a wonderful job of and building that web and and the US has done that to some extent, but we just haven’t supported it the way that the Chinese are currently supporting their people throughout them. Yeah.

 

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Yeah. What else is on your mind, Samson as we wrap up. Is there anything else. Big thing on your news before we bring you in for the next segment in the future.

 

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Big news. Oh, so

 

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You can’t have a

 

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Like smart city stuff. Yeah, right. So,

 

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I created a program blockchain cryptocurrency in the law for the University of New Hampshire.

 

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And either how posted in their IP program.

 

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Yeah. And so part of my conversation has been around smart cities. And so the long run is universal basic income because we had this conversation yesterday at America last time. Yep, at American University here in Dubai.

 

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Universal basic income in order to get there. It starts at free Wi Fi.

 

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Yep.

 

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It was to free public transportation metro buses.

 

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Yeah, and then it goes to free health care free housing and then universal basic income. Okay. Um, and so, this morning I was reading a post because talking about smart cities is morning I was reading the post where New York is requiring Uber to pay $17 and 22 cents an hour.

 

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After

 

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Exists to all of his drivers and so it’s

 

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Uber’s are fantastic service. I use it all the time.

 

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But

 

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Companies like Uber, Lyft via they’re a failure in planning their failure and critical infrastructure and will investment.

 

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There, Phil.

 

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You’re having proper transportation and so when you have cities like New York saying, Oh, we’re going to charge you 17 we’re going to require that you pay your driver $17 and 20 cents an hour.

 

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They’re admitting we’ve done such a poor job of regional and city planning, you had a private idea stepped up to pick up our slack and now we’re going to punish them.

 

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Yeah.

 

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It so it’s unfortunate because we have to figure out a way to invest in infrastructure. When I say infrastructure mean like roads.

 

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Yeah, or etc clean drinking water. And so my rant is if don’t penalize private companies for picking up your slack. Yep.

 

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I got it. Yeah. And you know what you know what occurred, to my mind, while you’re saying that I don’t know if anybody’s working on this yet or not, but

 

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It takes an Uber model in a place that has high population density like New York

 

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And then tie your buses to it. Right. I mean, there’s no reason you couldn’t have buses that are altering their schedule and delivery places based on demand right and

 

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In a place with population density like New York, you could stop at a corner.

 

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Pick up 25 people and then drive them to a different part of town drop off 12 at one place drop off 12 and another place.

 

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So you could actually use the Uber model for public transportation in a place like New York because there’s enough density of people getting from one place to another. So

 

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But you’re right. I mean, the bus system. People don’t ride it because they went way too long for the bus. They’ve got it, you know.

 

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It causes frustration. I mean, it’s fantastic. When public transportation works the subway system in New York. You know, being the prime example you can often get on the subway and get off faster you can get a cab.

 

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That’s what we need to think like, right. How do we make it better.

 

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But I hear you on the universal basic income. And the thing I remind people, is we already have some notions of this already in the US, we think it’s so radically different than what we’re doing.

 

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But we’ve already built some safety net. We’ve already got some of it started. So it’s not as radical as it sounds.

 

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To go there and I think there is some stuff where we just be efficient right we’ve agreed that we’re all going to

 

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YOU KNOW, YOU SHARE THE ROADS RIGHT. SO roads are open to the public. We maintain them together. We don’t have people building separate sensor roads because that would just be crazy.

 

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Things like Wi Fi right basically everybody needs Wi Fi now. So at what point do you say, hey, that’s a public sector, I don’t

 

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I don’t think that that I think that would actually in a lot of ways, bring a lot of efficiency, rather than having duplicate in triplicate of the same infrastructure.

 

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Yeah, absolutely. So I’m gonna sign off with you.

 

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By encouraging everyone to go visit Dubai’s 2020 vision.

 

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Yep. And what Bible look like is. It’s literally a desert right yeah built tire city ecosystem, the tallest building in the world and all the accoutrement. In the middle of the desert. Why can’t we do this in Baltimore.

 

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Or anything else.

 

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In America, no week week we could you know and Dubai to they see the future too, right, they are they’re one of the ones to it also said, hey, we can’t rely on oil forever. So let’s build a city, let’s build a global economic

 

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Center and hub and they built it so folks goal is to wake you up. Hopefully that does. We asked you, like, comment, share let some folks know what you saw here today, get them into the conversation with us.

 

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comm slash in terms Sampson, I know you’re on LinkedIn. Is there, is there another good way for people to reach out to you if they want to have a conversation or maybe bring some of your consulting services. Yeah.

 

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Yeah, you can find me on LinkedIn. Samson Williams and go to Samson Williams calm as my personal website or you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram at hustle fun, baby. It’s like a trust fund baby would have to earn every penny.

 

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You can follow our business at access into eggs like axes that you chop down a tree with an exit you eat X and X com also on the social media.

 

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Social media assets and eggs. If you happen to be in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, tomorrow, I’ll be there next week I’m giving a class on understanding fintech and blockchain. And we’ll talk about that later.

 

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Yeah, definitely. I am sad and guys Samson’s a guy that just gets it. I mean, he’s been at it for a while he understands the interconnection so

 

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Feel free to reach out to them if you if you need some help, or if you’re just looking at our project. You want to make sure you get it right. He’s a great guy to get in on the strategic planning side, as we talked about today.

 

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I’m at the are shot on LinkedIn. You’ll also find us at the future done right YouTube channel, you find me on twitter at McBride for biz.

 

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Reminder no investment advice, no legal advice, consult your own advisors. We did talk a little bit about tax and stuff, confirm all that with your advisors, get your own advice, congratulations on doing the hard work to invest in yourself.

 

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And we remind you there’s past videos upcoming guests and a chance to subscribe to our email list to get advance notice of events and things over at future done right. COM. So thanks everybody for tuning in. Samson. Thanks for joining me today. It was a lot of fun. As always,

 

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Alright, see you later, man.

 

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Bye bye.

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